Does securing the southern border create a false sence of security?

people can still come in through many other means, this isnt to say that securing the southern border is bad at all. but i worry that after that is done people will think that we are alot more secure as far as terrorists and illegal immigrants go. there is miles and miles of coastlines which we havent to my knowledge improved patrol of and the northern border too.....and theres always going on an airplane with fake documentation. do you think it creates a false sence of security? why or why not?Does securing the southern border create a false sence of security?
Yes, it does. As you have pointed out, there are many other ways to enter the country illegally, like going by sea and comign ashore on the coast or overstaying a valid visa. Perhaps the anti-illegal immigration fanatics should want to build a wall on the border with Canada as well, and build pillboxes along the whole coastline to prevent people from immigrating illegally there. People seem to think that building a fence on the U.S.-Mexico border will magically solve the whole illegal immigration problem. In reality it will be a waste of billions of tax dollars, and it will be ineffective as people will just dig under the fence, cut a hole in it, come ashore along the coast, or overstay a visa. However the fence will be built anyway because the politicians need to make it look like they are actually doing something about the problem in order to gain votes, and unfortunately, most people buy it. I think that the only effective solution to the problem would be to grant amnesty to illegal aliens. It would get them paying taxes, instead of just freeloading. I think that anyone found to be in the U.S. illegally should be given the choice of amnesty or deportation. Those who choose amnesty should become U.S. citizens but they should be forced to pay higher taxes for the first few years to make up for not paying taxes before they became citizens. They should also be jailed for a few months and then forced to do community service. That way there would still be an incentive to immigrate legally. Also, the immigration process needs to be improved and made more efficient. While many people would have you believe that the only reason anyone immigrates to the U.S. illegally is to harm Americans, the truth is that the vast majority of illegal immigrants immigrated illegally because the immigration process is very lengthy and inefficient. If it were easier to immigrate legally, hardly anyone would find it necessary to immigrate illegally. The government should also start crakcing down on companies that hire illegal aliens.





As for terrorist, the truth is many terrorists have entered the country legally. There is really no reason why it is necessary for them to enter illegally, it's not like customs agents can tell if someone is a terrorist or not. And besides, anything they would need to carry out a terrorist attack, they could probably get in the U.S., so they wouldn't need to bring it in with them. In fact, since the U.S. has laxer fire-arms laws than just about any country on earth, it would be much easier for them to obtain weapons here than it would be for them to bring them in. Many anti-illegal immigration fanatics say that many illegal immigrants are terrorists and that thousands of terrorists are entering the country illegally through the border with Mexico, but it is really just a scare tactic.Does securing the southern border create a false sence of security?
Securing the southern border - exactly what does that mean. How can they secure the border. A fence isn't going to stop anyone that wants to get in. And realize that when the towers came down, the terrorists DID NOT come in through Mexico.


Securing the southern border because of terrorists is a farce, it is to control illegal immigration. But yet I don't see National Guard troops standing at our Northern border keeping out canadians. Why? Is it because they are more acceptable to caucasian americans?


If you are interested in securing our borders, then please vote for individuals who will not butt into other countries business and let them handle their own disputes. We are a target because we are butinskies. We have bases around the world where they are not wanted or needed.


We need ';politicos'; who will try to straighten up the USA and strengthen it economically. Someone who is not so worried about oil and money, but finds alternative means of fuel for our consumption here in our country, thus creating jobs. The cost of living has to stop rising - because the measly wage increase means nothing when everything else goes up too.


Unless you are rich, everyone lives from paycheck to paycheck trying to make ends meet. We need a government that is not so big, so frivolous, so money hungry and extravagant.


Want to secure this country from terrorists, do it from within.
Yes, definately
Yes I do, because as you said there are other ways they will get in.If they want it bad enough, they will find a way!
100% correct Yoda.





And as curvy chick said...they should secure their miles and miles of coastlines as well, and there's always going on an airplane with fake documentation.





What do you think ';curvy';???





I think Yoda ';nailed it on the head';!!
i think Mexico is about the only friend the USA has left after George Pinhead Bush has alienated everyone else and all the USA is doing is making another enemy down there, which means we're less secure, not more.
definetly. take a look at this. the orth american union. a currency called the amero. this didint go through congress since george himself stated loads of times ';im above the law';


anyway this was all the pretext of the disastrous EU. lulled in slowly but surely. please dont let that happen to america. i think there is a march on 17th nov in santa monica. check it out on youtube.


btw im not american and im not livin there.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuBo4E77Z…


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T74VA3xU0…


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brYWujMC-…
I suppose you are talking about THIS southern border (in the link and following text) . Perhaps they should secure their northern border as well?? After all, it's not fair to secure one and not the other isn't it?? It's ';racist';!!





http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/world/060815a…





MEXICO CITY, Mexico - For the past month, America's attention has been focused on the Middle East war. During that time, another 300,000 illegal aliens have crossed America's border with Mexico. But you won't believe how Mexico treats its illegal aliens.





Illegal aliens from Mexico were allowed to march through America's cities, demanding citizenship – some even waved the Mexican flag. But illegal aliens inside Mexico, mostly from Guatemala and Honduras, are literally on the run.





Some travel by train and some hide, trying to stay one step ahead of the Mexican Federal Police.





The Mexican government was outraged by the movement to build a new wall on America's southern border. Mexico's Foreign Secretary Luis Ernesto Derbez went before the cameras to protest.





Derbez said, ';Mexican immigrants are not felons or terrorists. They are human beings who deserve respect and the opportunity to live with dignity.';





But in Mexico, when it comes to the treatment of its illegal aliens it's, ‘Do as I say, not as I do.’





Mexico has called U.S. immigration policy ';harsh,'; and has called the proposed wall on the U.S. Mexico border ';shameful.'; But some have called the Mexican immigration policy ';hypocritical.';





Enter Mexico illegally and you're treated as a felon. If you're caught by the Federal Police, you'll be fortunate if you're only deported immediately. The unfortunate are robbed, abused, raped, or even murdered by corrupt police officers.





Fernando Aguilar Neri coordinates Red Cross efforts to help illegal aliens in Mexico.





“When people approach us, they are usually fearful that we work with the government and are afraid of being reported,” said Neri. “…One of the seven principles of the Red Cross is complete neutrality and independence, so we can't cooperate with the Mexican government on the illegal alien issue.”





Neri says that most illegals moving through Mexico try to avoid the cities.





The Catholic Church also shields illegal aliens from the Mexican government. CBN found two shelters for illegals in Mexico City, but weren't allowed inside.





Most of the Central Americans inside are on their way to the United States. They'll be fortunate if they arrive unharmed.





One immigrant from El Salvador said, ';If you are carrying any money, the police take the money and then say, get out of here.';





';We still have 20 days of travel (to reach the United States),'; another one said.





But if you're a Mexican wanting to enter the U.S. illegally, then you can count on the Mexican government's help and support. It even has a special department called Grupos Beta that helps Mexicans cross the U.S. border illegally.





But in an interview with CBN News, the head of Mexico's Immigration Service, Hipolito Treviño, denied it.





“Grupos Beta is the Mexican government initiative which does not help people cross the border, but they do assist them when they have problems in the border area,” Trevino said.





But Grupos Beta gives them a booklet, which includes tips on how to safely cross the U.S border. Trevino denied the allegation that immigrants are also given maps by the government.





“No maps,” he said. “We give them recommendations about the dangerous animals they'll encounter, how much water they need every day, what to do in case they get lost, what to do in case they get detained by the border patrol, which paths are dangerous because of crime.”





The reason for the government's help? The cash sent home by Mexicans in the U.S. constitutes the second biggest source of foreign currency in Mexico after the oil industry. Last year that was $20 billion, or 2 percent of Mexico's GDP.





About 10 percent of Mexico's population is now living in the United States, that’s over 10 million people. And how many illegal aliens in its own country has Mexico legalized in the past five years? Just 15,000.





The Mexican government may think a new wall on the U.S. border is offensive, but critics are saying far worse things about Mexico's immigration policy.
Terrorists come in legally (as we have seen). I don't think most people on here are truly worried about terrorists. The bigger concern is the American Worker.





As such, where there is a will, there is a way. There are ways to go under, over, around, and through a fence. However, a fence would GREATLY reduce the rate of entry.